A partnership built on making families stronger.

Our mission is to be the trusted village every grandparent and adult child can turn to — before, during, and after the hard conversations. We’ve spent lives and careers understanding what it actually takes to keep an intergenerational family close.

Our Story

Pam Siegel and Leslie Zinberg. Two women. Two lives and careers spent inside real families.

Pam and Leslie didn't set out to write a book. They set out to solve a problem they kept watching families walk into, unarmed. Grandparenting Renew, Relive, Rejoice was the first attempt — fifty-two ways in, fifty-two small permissions to reconnect. It worked. It also revealed the harder truth underneath: connection wasn't a knowledge problem. It was a communication problem, and it went both directions.

So, they wrote a second book addressing the dynamic between parents and grandparents…a grandparent who loves too hard and says the wrong thing at the wrong time. An adult child who wants their parents close but can't figure out why it isn’t working. A relationship everyone wants and almost nobody has a map to guide them. Say It Out Loud, How to Have Honest Conversations Between Parents and Grandparents doesn't take a side. It says, out loud, what grandparents are afraid to admit — that they're not in charge anymore — and what adult children are afraid to say — that they want their parents close, just not in charge either. It hands both generations the same map.

That's when Pam and Leslie realized books are never the whole answer. Families don't get stuck once.  They get stuck weekly, over new milestones, new boundaries, new versions of the same old argument. What families actually need is a place to come back to.

That place is called, The Grandparent Village.

Not a blog. Not a course library. A village, in the oldest sense of the word — the place you go because it’s hard to raise a family, or hold one together, entirely alone. Pam and Leslie are the elders of it: two experts who have spent their careers in the exact terrain their audience is standing in, willing to say the thing everyone else is too polite to say.

Every grandparent who's ever bitten their tongue too late. Every adult child who's ever wanted to scream and said nothing instead. Every therapist who's watched a family circle the same fight for the tenth time. That's who the Village is built for. And Pam and Leslie aren't just its founders — they're proof that saying the honest thing, out loud, is what actually brings a family back together.

Our Focus

Two experts. One village.

Two authors, two published books, and a track record of research-backed, real-world tools mapped to the specific places grandparents and adult children get stuck. Our books are focused on issues specifically for grandparents and their adult children navigating today's family dynamics. Take a peak at our drop down menu of a list of relevant topics.

“Say It Out Loud tackles one of family life's most universal tensions: the push and pull between parents and grandparents. With warmth, humor, and clinical insight, Pam Siegel and Leslie Zinberg-therapist, grandparent advocates, and grandmothers themselves-offer a practical roadmap for the conversations families tend to avoid.

— Erin Schlozman, author of The Myth of the Perfect Mom, Therapist, and Founder of 4th Trimester Wellness

The Grandparent Village family playing on beach
Pam Siegel and Leslie Zinberg books, Grandparenting Renew Relive Rejoice and Say It Out Loud

Practical tools and honest conversation starters.

Discover Pam and Leslie's published works, including Grandparenting Renew, Relive, Rejoice, 52 Ways to Mindfully Connect and Grow with Your Grandkids, and their newest release, Say It Out Loud, How to Have Honest Conversations Between Parents and Grandparents.