A partnership built on making families stronger.

Our mission is to be the trusted village every grandparent and adult child can turn to — before, during, and after the hard conversations. We’ve spent lives and careers understanding what it actually takes to keep an intergenerational family close.

Our Story

Two women. Two careers spent inside real families. And the same intergenerational story, over and over: a grandparent who loved too hard and said the wrong thing at the wrong time. An adult child who wanted their parents close but couldn't say why it wasn't working. A relationship everyone wanted and almost nobody had a map for.

Pam Siegel and Leslie Zinberg didn't set out to write a book. They set out to solve a problem they kept watching families walk into, unarmed. Grandparenting – Renew, Relive, Rejoice was the first attempt — fifty-two ways in, fifty-two small permissions to reconnect. It worked. It also revealed the harder truth underneath: connection wasn't a knowledge problem. It was a communication problem, and it went both directions.

So they wrote the book they actually meant to write. Say It Out Loud, How to Have Honest Conversations Between Parents and Grandparents doesn't take a side. It says, out loud, what grandparents are afraid to admit — that they're not in charge anymore — and what adult children are afraid to say — that they want their parents close, just not in charge either. It hands both generations the same map.

That's when Pam and Leslie realized the books were never the whole answer. A book gets read once and goes back on the shelf. Families don't get stuck once — they get stuck weekly, over new milestones, new boundaries, new versions of the same old argument. What families actually needed was a place to come back to.

That place is called, The Grandparent Village.

Not a blog. Not a course library. A village, in the oldest sense of the word — the place you go because you can't raise a family, or hold one together, entirely alone. Pam and Leslie are the elders of it: two experts who've spent their careers in the exact terrain their audience is standing in, willing to say the thing everyone else is too polite to say.

Every grandparent who's ever bitten their tongue too late. Every adult child who's ever wanted to scream and said nothing instead. Every therapist who's watched a family circle the same fight for the tenth time. That's who the Village is built for. And Pam and Leslie aren't just its founders — they're proof that saying the honest thing, out loud, is what actually brings a family back together.

Our Focus

Two experts. One village.

Two authors, two published books, and a track record of research-backed, real-world tools mapped to the specific places grandparents and adult children get stuck. Our books are focused on issues specifically for grandparents and their adult children navigating today's family dynamics.

Say It Out Loud tackles one of family life's most universal tensions: the push and pull between parents and grandparents. With warmth, humor, and clinical insight, Pam Siegel and Leslie Zinberg-therapist, grandparent advocates, and grandmothers themselves-offer a practical roadmap for the conversations families tend to avoid.

— Erin Schlozman, author of The Myth of the Perfect Mom, Therapist, and Founder of 4th Trimester Wellness

Practical tools and honest conversation starters.

Discover Pam and Leslie's published works, including Grandparenting: Renew, Relive, Rejoice and their newest release, Say It Out Loud: How to Have Honest Conversations Between Parents and Grandparents.